Design Tokens, Web Compents, and Web Monetization

The hosts dive into the tech behind Clues by Sam, exploring its data structure and what’s driving community fascination. They discuss the design tokens ecosystem and highlight recent insights from Brad and Ian Frost on scalable token systems. The conversation also covers the shadow DOM, the current maturity of web components in mid‑2025, JSON processing in real apps, and emerging ideas in web monetization, including pay-per-crawl and Cloudflare's monetization tools.

This episode blends practical web development topics—from UI design systems to markup patterns—with forward-looking monetization experiments that could shape the future of web publishing.